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Another example of Dad being a second class citizen in Canada
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Posted by: Danny Guspie 9/23/2007
“I think men are equally involved with their children and should be presumed in law to be equally involved as their partners. When you sign on the dotted line for your marriage licence, does anyone tell the man, ‘you know what, you're not an equal partner?'”The form is offensive and goes against the Charter of Rights, said Mr. Guspie. “I would encourage any man that finds himself in that situation to simply phone up his local tax office and say ‘how would you like to face me in federal court next week?'”

Editor's note: At least I got the definitive word in this article...there may be hope for society yet. Notably NDP MP Olivia Chow seems to agrees with me...

For child-care benefit, mom's the word

GLORIA GALLOWAY

Globe and Mail Update

    Ottawa — Dads who try to complete the forms required to claim the federal government's new child care benefit may be surprised to learn they need a note from their wives.

    To qualify for the $100-a-month Universal Child Care Benefit payments, parents are asked to fill in the application for the Canada Child Tax Benefit. But the government stipulates that mothers, not fathers, must do the applying.

    The third paragraph of the form states: “When both a male and a female parent live in the same home as the child, we presume that the female parent is primarily responsible and should apply, unless a note from the female parent is attached to this application that states that the male parent is primarily responsible for the child.”

    The form is not new. It is the same document that parents fill in to apply for the Canada Child Tax Benefit and has been in use for several years. But, because the new child-care benefit is universal, more moms and dads are seeing it.

    And some are concerned about the message it imparts.

    “We're living in the 21st Century. There is no reason for this whatsoever,” said Danny Guspie, the executive director of Fathers' Resources International, a Toronto-based group that lobbies for fathers' rights.

    “I think men are equally involved with their children and should be presumed in law to be equally involved as their partners. When you sign on the dotted line for your marriage licence, does anyone tell the man, ‘you know what, you're not an equal partner?'”

    The form is offensive and goes against the Charter of Rights, said Mr. Guspie. “I would encourage any man that finds himself in that situation to simply phone up his local tax office and say ‘how would you like to face me in federal court next week?'”

    Jacqueline Couture, a spokeswoman for Revenue Canada, said the forms comply with the Income Tax Act, which is an old law. The presumption that women are the primary caregivers goes back to 1945 and the introduction of the Family Allowance, which many Canadians remember as the baby bonus, she said.

    But Olivia Chow, the Human Resources critic for the NDP, said new forms mean fathers are being denied their responsibility to their child.

    “I couldn't believe this actually,” said Ms. Chow. “This is what, the ‘50s, or even before that?”

    The requirement that mothers must write a note giving their husbands permission to fill out the form is almost humorous, said Ms. Chow.

    “And the assumption that the female would always be the primary caregiver - I thought that a child is a shared responsibility, keeping a household is a shared responsibility,” she said.

    “With a form like that, no wonder we still find that females still do most of the household work and have tremendous stress because they never have any time if we expect her, even if she's working, to be the primary care giver.”

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    Re: Another example of Dad being a second class citizen in Canada    By Mohamood on 5/31/2006
    Way to go Danny. Yet another example of the rights of dads being cast aside in this unfair system. There is hope yet though, beginning with small changes like on this one form.

    Re: Another example of Dad being a second class citizen in Canada    By Beaten Dad on 6/5/2006
    Danny Guspie hit the nail right on the head. This tax law is as unfair and as archaic as the current family law. It’s another example of how fathers are treated as inferior parents. Governments should pull their heads out of the sand and stand up to the feminist movement that seems to dictate the laws of this country concerning families and children. There is an equally powerful force swelling in this country, composed of GOOD father’s who are sick and tired of being kicked in the teeth by the court system. Fathers with little or no contact with their children and absurdly unjust child support orders that they can’t begin to afford to pay. If the general public was aware of the injustices being carried out on a daily basis in this country, they would be ashamed to call themselves Canadians. It’s a real tragedy that the public has been force fed the concept of all divorced fathers being “dead beat dads” when in actuality, most are responsible, loving parents who have been raped by the current laws of this country and by the gutless bureaucrats who deliver them. When suicide is a too-commonly chosen alternative for these Dads, you have to wonder how the law makers in our society sleep at night. When will the nightmare end?

    Beaten Dad
    Kanata, Ontario

    Re: Another example of Dad being a second class citizen in Canada    By George Biggar on 6/6/2006
    Danny: This is bittersweet and confusing for me, because I can't stand Olivia Chow... But I have to agree with her comments, even if for a different reason!

    Keep fighting Danny... It took me 5 years, as you know, just to get recognition that I have a minority stake in my children's lives...

    When will the same idiots that whine and complain about the high level of crime in the city and the lack of family values wake up and realize that they engineered the situation by completely tieing the hands of caring fathers who wish to have a positive impact on their children? How does anyone expect children to respect fathers if the legal system states we are virtually worthless? And how is it that the legal system and laws in general could reflect values so vastly different than society as a whole, without being gutted and rethought?

    I have never seen a more obvious example of systemic bias than this one. Can you imagine if the tax form stated "In order to be eligible for a tax credit, wives must first produce a written statement from their husbands proving they are responsible for their children"?! There would be rioting in the streets!


    Re: Another example of Dad being a second class citizen in Canada    By JIM B. on 6/6/2006
    RELEVANT TO THE SUBJECT BEING DISCUSSED : CH TELEVISION RECENTLY CARRIED A LIVE INTERVIEW REGARDING "PARENTAL ALIENATION SYNDROME ... A KIDNAPPED MIND ", A BOOK WRITTEN BY PAMELA RICHARDSON WHO APPARENTLY HAD LOST CUSTODY OF HER CHILD . IT SEEMED THAT IT WAS ONLY AFTER INTENSE QUESTIONING BY THE INTERVIEWER THAT MS. RICHARDSON FINALLY CONCEDED THAT WOMEN ALSO INDULGE IN BRAINWASHING CHILDREN IN ORDER TO ALIENATE THEM FROM THEIR FATHERS . MY GOODNESS GRACIOUS ME , HAD IT NOT BEEN FOR THE PERSISTENCE OF THE INTERVIEWER WHO SUCCEEDED IN BRINGING THIS FACT TO LIGHT , I WOULD HAVE BEEN LEFT WITH THE IMPRESSION THAT ONLY FATHERS WERE GUILTY OF PERPETRATING THE ALIENATION OF THEIR CHILDREN FROM THEIR MOTHERS BY KIDNAPPING THEIR MINDS . HANG IN THERE , DANNY . CANADIAN FATHERS NEED YOU . JIM B.

    Re: Another example of Dad being a second class citizen in Canada    By Sam S. on 6/6/2006
    Second Class citizen is right. I have CAS putting a child protection order on the family and they are not placing the kids with me, their dad, even though they have been to see me and my place, where the children sleep and told me that everything was totally appropriate. Had situations been reversed, you could be sure that CAS would be grabbing the kids away from me in a heartbeat.

    Re: Another example of Dad being a second class citizen in Canada    By Eva McCormick on 6/6/2006
    Thankyou Danny Guspie for speaking your peace on behalf of all fathers. This is the 21 Century and fathers take an active roll in the lives of their children. The rights of fathers are very unjust within the law and government of this great country. Sharing the responsibilities is the mainstay of families these days. It is high time for the powers that be get with it and change the laws so our children can enjoy the love and affection of both parents. What more could a child ask for.

    E. McCormick

    Re: Another example of Dad being a second class citizen in Canada    By William on 6/6/2006
    This is very true and yet just one of the many things that father's can't do. Last year when I tried to get the birth records from the hospital that my son was born at I was denied because I was not the mother and the hospital stated that they don't even put the fathers information on record. That was one of the biggest kick in the pants that I had ever gotten.

    I am in a custody battle for my now 4 year old son and yet it feels like being the father I am just tossed aside most of the time and it really ticks me off.

    Letter to Globe & Mail    By Vijay on 6/6/2006
    Here is my letter tot the Globe and Mail in response to the article:

    =========================================

    Dear Sir,

    Mr. Guspie only scratches the surface when he
    correctly points out that the Canada Revenue form
    breaks the Canadian Charter of Rights. I urge the
    Right Honourable Mrs. Olivia Chow, as well as all our
    duly elected representatives, to make children a
    shared responsibilty between both parents. The current
    Custody and Access legislation is in itself against
    the Charter of Rights, as well as against the rights
    of the Child. Hopefully, this parliament will finally
    correct the system that has been wrong for decades and
    which has no place in modern society.

    Kind regards,
    Vijay Shah



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